It's annoying when AI writers try to sound all high-falutin' because they use a word or phrase they heard banged around on the internet without having any fucking clue what it means.
That is annoying.
But what is even more annoying is how people jump to their defense, with "well-reasoned" excuses for why the word means something other than what dictionaries report.
This is obviously used in a different manner, that is made clear by the text and supported by the definitions of the words.
Got a definition handy that agrees with AI's usage? That is the only real response. This is a matter of fact, not opinion. Repeated assertion is unconvincing.
Got a definition handy that agrees with AI's usage? That is the only real response. This is a matter of fact, not opinion. Repeated assertion is unconvincing.
You honestly can't look up the words feature and parity in a dictionary? Do you really need to? YOu don't know what a feature is or what parity means, and you can't use critical thinking to figure out the simplest thought process? Or is it you are such a masochist that you want to get another forum beat down from yours truly?
edit: It's Sunday and I have an etymology (you can look that up, too) meeting and some errands to run so I unfortunately will have to pass the troll beating baton to another poster this day.
Desktops aren't going anywhere. It's a must that we can add (for example) Avid, Black Magic, AJA and Protools hardware to our workstations. It's also a must that we have superfast drive standards like dual channel SATA and fiber channel for uncompressed HD and 4k (now moving to 8K ) editing.
The people who need that are a vanishingly small portion of the total consumer electronics market. They are a small niche.
At the same time, desktop devices will advance to be equally more powerful, and will always be ahead of the performance curve because they don't have the same power limitations, don't need to be miniaturized, heat isn't as important, etc., etc.
Likely true, but that is not the question.
The question is whether Apple will continue to play (to the same extent) in a shrinking market, especially now that they have made clear that they are no longer a computer company, but instead, a CE company?
The question is whether Apple will continue to play (to the same extent) in a shrinking market, especially now that they have made clear that they are no longer a computer company, but instead, a CE company?
Well, tekstud, as usual your point rests on a false premise -- i.e., there is no shrinking market, in fact it's growing.
I think the rumours of splitting WWDC into two events makes a lot of sense.
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Well, tekstud, as usual your point rests on a false premise -- i.e., there is no shrinking market, in fact it's growing.
It's amazing this kid can't have a single worthwhile post, but instead calls others trolls as if his thinly veiled plan goes unnoticed. On top of that, he's now doing a single reply to every post while also quoting the entire pos despite the rapid succession of short, asinine comments.
as usual your point rests on a false premise -- i.e., there is no shrinking market, in fact it's growing.
"Mobile computing has taken over as the main driver of growth in PC sales for the past year, with notebooks overtaking desktops in late 2008 and sales of desktops declining for the last two years."
The shrinking market I was referring to was the desktop market. I wonder how long apple will continue to play in this market, given that it is shrinking.
The shrinking market I was referring to was the desktop market. I wonder how long apple will continue to play in this market, given that it is shrinking.
Well, that's assuming current trends continue without change, but there's no reason to think that will be the case. iOS devices will likely disrupt those trends and push the desktop numbers back over the notebook numbers in the near future. It's kind of silly to argue that iOS type devices are changing the landscape of the computer market but that at the same time the market will remain essentially the same. But, it's not the silliest thing you ever said, tekstud.
Well, that's assuming current trends continue without change, but there's no reason to think that will be the case. iOS devices will likely disrupt those trends and push the desktop numbers back over the notebook numbers in the near future. It's kind of silly to argue that iOS type devices are changing the landscape of the computer market but that at the same time the market will remain essentially the same. But, it's not the silliest thing you ever said, tekstud.
Gotta love how he twists everything. I wonder if he actually thinks he's clever with his lies or if he actually believes them.
He actually links to an article (for once) that clearly states that desktop sales expected to be up, not down! Because there was a recession and many were waiting for Win7 it was pretty big news in the the industry when desktop sales were in fact up YoY.
There is even a recent IDC article on it with a nifty chart forcasting positive worldwide desktop PC growth until at least 2014.
Although low to mid-range Portable PCs still dominate the market, Desktop PCs also recovered with its first yearly growth since the second quarter of 2008. Commercial Desktops posted positive growth, a first since the downturn, while the popularity of All-in-One PCs was a major factor in driving Consumer Desktop growth.
Desktop PC volume should grow over 8% in 2010 thanks in part to favorable comparisons to a dismal 2009 but also due to business replacements and the popularity of All-in-One PCs.
What's most laughable is the idea that the PC equates to a floppy drive. That people are simply going to drop it once a better tech comes along instead of the obvious use of desktops, notebooks and satellite computing devices. Even when the sales do decline steadily YoY there will still be a need for them, unless floppy drives but, hey, anything can do to state that Apple doesn't care about Macs the bigger his bonus is at Trolls-Я-Us.
It's kind of silly to argue that iOS type devices are changing the landscape of the computer market but that at the same time the market will remain essentially the same.
I think that the desktop market will shrink. In that regard, I do not think that the computer market will remain essentially the same.
What's most laughable is the idea that the PC equates to a floppy drive.
Yes, the desktop == floppy drive thing is pretty funny, but, tekstud, aka stevie, is generally a funny guy. I think he thought it was pretty clever, but, master of analogies he is not.
There is even a recent IDC article on it with a nifty chart forcasting positive worldwide desktop PC growth until at least 2014.[INDENT][FONT="Arial"]
Yes. Very interesting chart.
It shows that US desktop sales peaked sometime prior to 2009, with inexorable declines every year thereafter.
Internationally, they predict a peak next year, with stagnant growth quickly trailing off to nothing.
An in the Worldwide category, the same trend is predicted.
I stand by my statement that the desktop PC market is not a significant growth area for Apple compared to their (MUCH more successful) portable device business.
OMG, besides ignoring the article that he implies reading with his comment "inexorable declines" since 2009 despite clear proof that desktop sales have been up and are predicted to grow between 2010 and 2014, he then completely lies through his teeth stating his position was "not [...] significant growth" even through clearly using "shrinking market" with "inexorable declines". He's also ignoring Apple's propping up the desktop market with their successful iMac. But who would pay so much for an AIO when you can get it all in pieces for a lot less?
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LOL I corrected it. iOS autocorrect can't fix my lack of proofreading forum posts.
Why?
English is funny that way. When the "right" word has the "wrong" meaning.
It's annoying when AI writers try to sound all high-falutin' because they use a word or phrase they heard banged around on the internet without having any fucking clue what it means.
That is annoying.
But what is even more annoying is how people jump to their defense, with "well-reasoned" excuses for why the word means something other than what dictionaries report.
This is obviously used in a different manner, that is made clear by the text and supported by the definitions of the words.
Got a definition handy that agrees with AI's usage? That is the only real response. This is a matter of fact, not opinion. Repeated assertion is unconvincing.
Gotta love when a someone tries to disprove your point but instead proves it.
Which definition proves your point?
Got a definition handy that agrees with AI's usage? That is the only real response. This is a matter of fact, not opinion. Repeated assertion is unconvincing.
You honestly can't look up the words feature and parity in a dictionary? Do you really need to? YOu don't know what a feature is or what parity means, and you can't use critical thinking to figure out the simplest thought process? Or is it you are such a masochist that you want to get another forum beat down from yours truly?
edit: It's Sunday and I have an etymology (you can look that up, too) meeting and some errands to run so I unfortunately will have to pass the troll beating baton to another poster this day.
Desktops aren't going anywhere. It's a must that we can add (for example) Avid, Black Magic, AJA and Protools hardware to our workstations. It's also a must that we have superfast drive standards like dual channel SATA and fiber channel for uncompressed HD and 4k (now moving to 8K
The people who need that are a vanishingly small portion of the total consumer electronics market. They are a small niche.
And Apple is now targeting the masses.
At the same time, desktop devices will advance to be equally more powerful, and will always be ahead of the performance curve because they don't have the same power limitations, don't need to be miniaturized, heat isn't as important, etc., etc.
Likely true, but that is not the question.
The question is whether Apple will continue to play (to the same extent) in a shrinking market, especially now that they have made clear that they are no longer a computer company, but instead, a CE company?
Could that also be used in a shed, shack, pied-a-terre, quonset hut, pup tent, barn, teepee, chalet or yurt, too?
Is a yurt a manor?
You honestly can't look up the words feature and parity in a dictionary? Do you really need to?
I looked it up and posted several definitions. You know that.
You claimed that the posted definitions prove your point. But you won't identify how any of them define the word in the manner used by AI.
Instead, you troll and insult.
Likely true, but that is not the question.
The question is whether Apple will continue to play (to the same extent) in a shrinking market, especially now that they have made clear that they are no longer a computer company, but instead, a CE company?
Well, tekstud, as usual your point rests on a false premise -- i.e., there is no shrinking market, in fact it's growing.
Well, tekstud, as usual your point rests on a false premise -- i.e., there is no shrinking market, in fact it's growing.
It's amazing this kid can't have a single worthwhile post, but instead calls others trolls as if his thinly veiled plan goes unnoticed. On top of that, he's now doing a single reply to every post while also quoting the entire pos despite the rapid succession of short, asinine comments.
as usual your point rests on a false premise -- i.e., there is no shrinking market, in fact it's growing.
"Mobile computing has taken over as the main driver of growth in PC sales for the past year, with notebooks overtaking desktops in late 2008 and sales of desktops declining for the last two years."
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...th-in-2010.ars
The shrinking market I was referring to was the desktop market. I wonder how long apple will continue to play in this market, given that it is shrinking.
As I said up above, Desktop = Floppy Disk.
The shrinking market I was referring to was the desktop market. I wonder how long apple will continue to play in this market, given that it is shrinking.
Well, that's assuming current trends continue without change, but there's no reason to think that will be the case. iOS devices will likely disrupt those trends and push the desktop numbers back over the notebook numbers in the near future. It's kind of silly to argue that iOS type devices are changing the landscape of the computer market but that at the same time the market will remain essentially the same. But, it's not the silliest thing you ever said, tekstud.
Well, that's assuming current trends continue without change, but there's no reason to think that will be the case. iOS devices will likely disrupt those trends and push the desktop numbers back over the notebook numbers in the near future. It's kind of silly to argue that iOS type devices are changing the landscape of the computer market but that at the same time the market will remain essentially the same. But, it's not the silliest thing you ever said, tekstud.
Gotta love how he twists everything. I wonder if he actually thinks he's clever with his lies or if he actually believes them.
He actually links to an article (for once) that clearly states that desktop sales expected to be up, not down! Because there was a recession and many were waiting for Win7 it was pretty big news in the the industry when desktop sales were in fact up YoY.
There is even a recent IDC article on it with a nifty chart forcasting positive worldwide desktop PC growth until at least 2014. What's most laughable is the idea that the PC equates to a floppy drive. That people are simply going to drop it once a better tech comes along instead of the obvious use of desktops, notebooks and satellite computing devices. Even when the sales do decline steadily YoY there will still be a need for them, unless floppy drives but, hey, anything can do to state that Apple doesn't care about Macs the bigger his bonus is at Trolls-Я-Us.
It's kind of silly to argue that iOS type devices are changing the landscape of the computer market but that at the same time the market will remain essentially the same.
I think that the desktop market will shrink. In that regard, I do not think that the computer market will remain essentially the same.
I think that the desktop market will shrink. In that regard, I do not think that the computer market will remain essentially the same.
Well, yes, tekstud, but you also thought SMS went magically from phone to phone without any infrastructure to support it.
What's most laughable is the idea that the PC equates to a floppy drive.
Yes, the desktop == floppy drive thing is pretty funny, but, tekstud, aka stevie, is generally a funny guy. I think he thought it was pretty clever, but, master of analogies he is not.
There is even a recent IDC article on it with a nifty chart forcasting positive worldwide desktop PC growth until at least 2014.[INDENT][FONT="Arial"]
Yes. Very interesting chart.
It shows that US desktop sales peaked sometime prior to 2009, with inexorable declines every year thereafter.
Internationally, they predict a peak next year, with stagnant growth quickly trailing off to nothing.
An in the Worldwide category, the same trend is predicted.
I stand by my statement that the desktop PC market is not a significant growth area for Apple compared to their (MUCH more successful) portable device business.