Apple faces iCloud lawsuit after after judge reverses victory

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After initially dismissing a proposed class action lawsuit over Apple's allegedly forcing users to use iCloud, a judge has now accepted further evidence and ruled that the case must continue.

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Originally filed in March 2024, the class action complaint accused Apple of violations the Sherman Act and the Clayton act. The allegation is that Apple has established "an illegal monopoly" because of its requiring Apple device users to use its iCloud backup.

A year later in March 2025, US District Judge Eumi Lee in San Jose, California, dismissed the case. However, she allowed that the plaintiffs could file an amended case, and according to Reuters, they have now done so.

Judge Lee has furthermore ruled that the consumers involved in the case have added substantial new allegations. While Apple had defended itself in part by arguing that users were free to use alternative storage, the new complaint focuses on elements such as settings data, which are restricted to iCloud.

Apple's lawyers originally also maintained that the complaint was what was described as untimely. This is because plaintiffs ordinarily have a four-year window to sue under US antitrust law.

According to the court's new full filing, Judge Lee ruled that the case was timely because the main plaintiff sued within four years of her first iCloud purchase.

However, despite Judge Lee describing that timeliness claim as being premature, she has allowed that it may be revisited later. This is "because it is unclear when Plaintiffs' claims accrued and whether Apple engaged in a continuing antitrust violation."

Regarding the issue of how Apple says users are able to choose alternative cloud storage, the revised complaint argues that the company coerces its customers into choosing iCloud. The reasoning here is that few buyers choose alternatives, even though the Plaintiffs allege that iCloud is inferior to these other offerings.

Apple has not commented on the new decision. It is now required to file a response to the court by July 7, 2025.



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  • Reply 1 of 11
    rob53rob53 Posts: 3,368member
    I don’t use iCloud for backup, never have. Why do some people get to sue Apple for something others don’t use? Maybe those who don’t feel force to use iCloud backup should be able to sue those who do. 

    The lawyers are the only ones making money. Why don’t people understand this. 
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  • Reply 2 of 11
    iOS_Guy80ios_guy80 Posts: 960member
    I don’t fully understand how Apple is requiring Apple users to use its iCloud backup. There are other options such as Google Drive, Dropbox and OneDrive.
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  • Reply 3 of 11
    rob53rob53 Posts: 3,368member
    iOS_Guy80 said:
    I don’t fully understand how Apple is requiring Apple users to use its iCloud backup. There are other options such as Google Drive, Dropbox and OneDrive.
    It's just a money grab by a bunch of lawyers. "Illegal monopoly"? There are many companies that force you to use their complete products but of course Apple has a lot of money so the corrupt lawyers see what they think is an easy way to make money. I'd start with Microsoft with its server and client licenses. The US government can't get rid of Microsoft products, same with corporations, because Microsoft has created software that forces customers to stay with their products otherwise everything would break. 
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  • Reply 4 of 11
    JMaillejmaille Posts: 33member
    So I've been using Apple products for a few years now, and as for forcing or coercing people to use iCloud, I don't see it.  There are better options for cloud storage than iCloud, many of which are far cheaper and have better functionality.  There are definitely backup options that are far better in functionality.  And based on my own experience, integrating at least some of these options in to the Apple ecosystem is extremely easy.

    As far as I can see the only advantage Apple has over the others is name recognition.  There are so many other options many people just go with Apple because they recognize the name and stick with it.  It's easy.  Not easier to use, but easier to pick -- you don't have to do any research or thinking.

    And if there is anything obvious about America today it's that the majority of people hate to do research or think.

    So from my point of view the real question here is whether Apple is responsible because their users are lazy.   

    Unfortunately, given that extreme laziness is obviously a very common trait among Americans, the lawyers for the plaintiffs here have an extremely good chance of convincing a lazy judge and lazy jury that their line of bullshit means that Apple is responsible for their client's laziness.

    Maybe, it's not just laziness... Probably a hefty dose of stupidity too.
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  • Reply 5 of 11
    Rogue01rogue01 Posts: 284member
    Apple does ‘coerce’ the user to use iCloud backup by defaulting the feature to ‘on’ and only giving a measly 5GB storage which is not enough space, so iOS constantly prompts the user to buy iCloud.  Many people do fall for it.  Apple did that on purpose.  

    But the lawsuit falsely alleges that people are ‘forced’ to buy it. That’s not true.  It can be turned off and the device plugged into your computer which does a full backup, but many don’t know that.  I refuse to buy Apple’s iCloud storage.  
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  • Reply 6 of 11
    maltzmaltz Posts: 551member
    iOS_Guy80 said:
    I don’t fully understand how Apple is requiring Apple users to use its iCloud backup. There are other options such as Google Drive, Dropbox and OneDrive.

    Well, none of those do a full backup of the phone.  Those are just ways to sync files from your phone to other devices.

    But there ARE other ways to backup your phone other than paying for iCloud.  I use iTunes on Windows for free.  (Which has since been replaced, but iTunes still works and is being maintained.)  It's not as automatic or convenient, but it's locally-stored and free.  I believe there are other tools that can also do it, but they're also not free, and I've never messed with them.
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  • Reply 7 of 11
    rob53rob53 Posts: 3,368member
    maltz said:
    iOS_Guy80 said:
    I don’t fully understand how Apple is requiring Apple users to use its iCloud backup. There are other options such as Google Drive, Dropbox and OneDrive.

    Well, none of those do a full backup of the phone.  Those are just ways to sync files from your phone to other devices.

    But there ARE other ways to backup your phone other than paying for iCloud.  I use iTunes on Windows for free.  (Which has since been replaced, but iTunes still works and is being maintained.)  It's not as automatic or convenient, but it's locally-stored and free.  I believe there are other tools that can also do it, but they're also not free, and I've never messed with them.
    Actually, iCloud backup of the iPhone and iPad doesn't back up the apps, only the app data and app organization. It does back up all non apps along with encrypted passwords if you have that configured. You still have to reinstall the apps. See: https://support.apple.com/en-us/108770
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  • Reply 8 of 11
    davidwdavidw Posts: 2,170member
    Rogue01 said:
    Apple does ‘coerce’ the user to use iCloud backup by defaulting the feature to ‘on’ and only giving a measly 5GB storage which is not enough space, so iOS constantly prompts the user to buy iCloud.  Many people do fall for it.  Apple did that on purpose.  

    But the lawsuit falsely alleges that people are ‘forced’ to buy it. That’s not true.  It can be turned off and the device plugged into your computer which does a full backup, but many don’t know that.  I refuse to buy Apple’s iCloud storage.  

    That's not quite right. iCloud might be turn on by default because every Apple account have 5GB of iCloud storage but there are more uses for iCloud storage than just for "back up". And it can be turned off if one don't want tp use iCloud storage. But "back up" to iCloud is not on by default. One has to go to the iPhone settings menu and perform a "backup" or schedule one for a later time. When in the "back up" menu, there is no default storage, iCloud is the only choice when using Apple "back up" software. It's called iCloud back up for a reason. 

    If you using an Android phone and do a backup using the phone menu Google Back up software, are you given a choice to use Amazon Cloud?  Or Microsoft OneDrive?

    When you download the Google Drive app for iPhones, to perform back ups on to Google Drive, do Google give you a choice to use iCloud? Google did that on purpose. 

    If Apple device users want to use another cloud storage service, then it's just as easy to click on that cloud service app and perform a back up, as it is to click on the Apple settings menu to perform the iCloud back up. About the only advantages of Apple users using iCloud (besides making it ridiculously easy to sync all their Apple devices) are that since all Apple account holders already have some sort of payment method on file, Apple users don't have to give their credit info to a third party if they need to pay for more cloud storage and there's less likely the chance of having their data mined. For many, that's worth the extra cost of iCloud storage. Don't think for a second that Google giving away more cloud storage is a bargain, when compared to Apple 5GB of free iCloud storage. For Google, your data is worth way more than your money.




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  • Reply 9 of 11
    davendaven Posts: 777member
    Huh? I’ve been using WD MyCloud drives at home for many years. I only use iCloud for my phone backup.
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  • Reply 10 of 11
    Wolfenwolfen Posts: 11member
    I think some people still don't understand what iCloud is thus these suits. I was paying for the 50GB option on iCloud for awhile because I didn't do my homework on why I needed to do so. I just assumed that since the days of my iPhone 4S and being a pack-rat on game apps, pics and videos that I had no choice but to upgrade so I could actually backup my phone. Turns out no I didn't need to do so. Only after saying I give up on the monthly fee because I use the prepaid cards from Apple, that I dug deeper into what I had. I had to use Amazon's free 5GB storage for my pics and I just really look through what was iCloud keeping? Tons of emails, iMesseges, pics and videos. So once I deleted the really old and no longer needed emails and messages I was able to see how it went down in space. Both on the phone and in the cloud. So I again just put more pics and videos in Amazon and deleted off my phone. I was using 7.6GB of iCloud storage before I did this. Now I am using only about 4.1GB of storage. 

    The key points is that so many people are mad about the 5GB limit these days and of the sheer amount of stuff they have. Not just pics and videos. But of emails and messages. Many probably are unaware about their emails and messages are taken up more space than think. It's a hassle yes to move stuff around here and there but it can be done. While it would be nice if Apple gave us a little more free space to use in this day and age. Something like 7GB to 10GB would be nice but I understand it would cost us more somewhere else for that to happen if it were to ever happen.

    I think a really good document on how to actually look at what your iCloud is really holding would help many of those people complaining about the low free storage they're facing. I know I was misguided but now I understand a bit more on how to manage my cloud storage.
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  • Reply 11 of 11
    Hopefully a judge with some sense oversees the eventual case, as even a dumb feck like me can see it has no merit.
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