Apple working on adding AI-powered search to Safari

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Apple is thinking about making changes to Safari to work with AI-based search engines, as it considers what it can do if courts end the $20 billion default search deal with Google.

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Safari, Apple's browser



Google is facing the prospect of making changes to its business, as a court tries to work out the best remedies it can take to conclude an antitrust lawsuit. For Apple, one of these options is for the court to end its deal worth $20 billion per year to keep Google as the default search on iPhone and in Safari.

With the very real possibility of missing out in billions of dollars in revenue from Google, Apple is seemingly thinking about the next steps it can take with Safari and search. It apparently involves AI, the current popular concept in the tech industry.

An AI search future



Apple SVP of Services Eddy Cue disclosed to the court on Wednesday that Apple is "actively looking" at changing search on Safari to use AI-based versions instead of Google, reports Bloomberg. During his testimony, Cue added that Safari searches were down for the first time in April, which he put down to people using AI for queries instead.

Cue offered that AI search providers will probably replace traditional search engines like Google. He also thinks that Apple will add the AI-based versions, such as from OpenAI, Perplexity AI, and Anthropic PBC, as search options within Safari.

While they will be added, Cue adds that they probably won't be set as the default search, and that improvements are still needed from them all.

Those improvements will probably include an overhaul of their search indexes, Cue believes. Even if that isn't fixed in the short term, Cue feels that there are other features available in AI search to prompt people to switch over.

When it comes to exactly who Apple will work with on introducing AI search engines to the Safari list, Cue said it was in talks with Perplexity at the moment. OpenAI's ChatGPT is already integrated into Siri, and Cue adds that Google's Gemini could be added later in 2025.

Lack of sleep



While the discussions are largely about ending the Google default search deal, Cue is still keen on keeping Google search as the default in Safari. Cue claims that he has lost sleep over the possibility of losing out on the deal and the billions it brings in to Apple's coffers.

That deal has already expanded into visual search. In 2024, the deal was altered so that Google Lens could be integrated into Visual Intelligence, allowing users to search using the iPhone's camera.

It is probable that a closure of the deal will also force Apple to rethink the operation of Visual Intelligence itself.



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  • Reply 1 of 25
    apple4thewinapple4thewin Posts: 437member
    Most searches on Safari are defaulted to Google, and nowadays most questions you have are first answered by Google Gemini before you can see search results.
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  • Reply 2 of 25
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,773member
    I'm increasingly using ChatGPT instead of google for search. 
    tapeihatescreennamesfelix01grandact73Hedware
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  • Reply 3 of 25
    tapetape Posts: 49member
    hard pass from me dawg.
    williamlondondecoderringgrandact73Flufflesworthydebonbonbonobob
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  • Reply 4 of 25
    Apple is working blablabla... Apple is working on everything, but nothing proven up to now.

    When will Apple finally deliver something? 


    danoxcharlesngrandact73Flufflesworthywilliamlondondamn_its_hot
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  • Reply 5 of 25
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,732member
    Apple is working blablabla... Apple is working on everything, but nothing proven up to now.

    When will Apple finally deliver something? 



    Apple is always currently working on something and so is everybody else in the tech industry? :)
    neoncatFlufflesworthywilliamlondon
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  • Reply 6 of 25
    ramanpfafframanpfaff Posts: 165member
    Most searches on Safari are defaulted to Google, and nowadays most questions you have are first answered by Google Gemini before you can see search results.
    Exactly.

     Most often it’s ok, but I’ve seen a few doozies that are so far off. I end up having to look at the actual search results like the old days. LOL 
    Alex1Nbonobob
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  • Reply 7 of 25
    22july201322july2013 Posts: 3,814member
    blastdoor said:
    I'm increasingly using ChatGPT instead of google for search. 
    Sure, but perhaps you don't know which search engines ChatGPT is using when it needs to do a search.
    Alex1N
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  • Reply 8 of 25
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,450member
    Google search has sucked out loud ever since they started prioritizing serving up ads instead of useful information in response to queries. That Google still finds it worthwhile to pay Apple $20 billion a year to be the default search engine is a testament to how lazy (or uninformed?) people must be not to switch to a different engine, or to AI/ChatGPT for their searches. So while this Google deal, on the face of it, should no longer be worth $20 billion right now, you can't underestimate the willingness of people to stick with a "default," even when it's bad. Yes, Google search now lists the Gemini answer first, with no advertising, but who could believe that Google won't start trying to monetize Gemini answers in some way, sooner than later? 


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  • Reply 9 of 25
    nubusnubus Posts: 814member
    Apple made $94 billion after taxes in 2024. It seems the effective tax rate is <25% indicating a +15% impact on profits.
    Apple might be able to make a search engine but it would be 100% antitrust to bundle it. Users would have to actively choose it instead of Google.

    I guess the stock value should in some way reflect future earnings.
    williamlondonbonobob
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  • Reply 10 of 25
    DAalsethdaalseth Posts: 3,292member
    https://gizmodo.com/apples-stock-price-falls-after-exec-says-it-is-considering-injecting-safari-with-ai-2000599351

    The markets seem unimpressed. 
    Not that it’s any skin off my nose. This was the last straw for me. After dealing with Safari crashes and freezes, and having to restart my system every few days because it just decided to not open any pages (on my phone, iPad, and Mac as well as others I support) and now them looking at putting AI **** in it, I’m done. Safari is a POS and I just moved to a DuckDuckGo. Apple seems to be mostly interested in the hype and not producing a quality browser by fixing the numerous issues that have been around for ages.
    williamlondonnubusAlex1N
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  • Reply 11 of 25
    dewmedewme Posts: 6,012member
    I'm very happy with Vivaldi browser and DuckDuckGo for web search. Like others, I use ChatGPT mostly and CoPilot and Gemini on occasion a lot more than any search engine these days. I have found Safari to be more compatible with some web sites, including AppleInsider. 
    Alex1N
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  • Reply 12 of 25
    1348513485 Posts: 397member
    DAalseth said:
    https://gizmodo.com/apples-stock-price-falls-after-exec-says-it-is-considering-injecting-safari-with-ai-2000599351

    The markets seem unimpressed. 
    Not that it’s any skin off my nose. This was the last straw for me. After dealing with Safari crashes and freezes, and having to restart my system every few days because it just decided to not open any pages (on my phone, iPad, and Mac as well as others I support) and now them looking at putting AI **** in it, I’m done. Safari is a POS and I just moved to a DuckDuckGo. Apple seems to be mostly interested in the hype and not producing a quality browser by fixing the numerous issues that have been around for ages.
    I acknowledge in advance that I may be a simpleton with simple needs, but I haven't restarted my iMac in two years. Safari has never crashed or frozen for me, no matter what OS version. I don't have specialty apps, just the mainstream ones. I know they shouldn't affect the browser in any event, but who knows. I don't know anyone else who has your problem, but maybe I need a wider group of acquaintances.
    williamlondonAlex1Ndanoxbonobob
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  • Reply 13 of 25
    mac_dogmac_dog Posts: 1,101member
    Most searches on Safari are defaulted to Google, and nowadays most questions you have are first answered by Google Gemini before you can see search results.
    Unless you’ve changed the search engine in settings. 
    Alex1Ndanox
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  • Reply 14 of 25
    mac_dogmac_dog Posts: 1,101member
    DAalseth said:
    https://gizmodo.com/apples-stock-price-falls-after-exec-says-it-is-considering-injecting-safari-with-ai-2000599351

    The markets seem unimpressed. 
    Not that it’s any skin off my nose. This was the last straw for me. After dealing with Safari crashes and freezes, and having to restart my system every few days because it just decided to not open any pages (on my phone, iPad, and Mac as well as others I support) and now them looking at putting AI **** in it, I’m done. Safari is a POS and I just moved to a DuckDuckGo. Apple seems to be mostly interested in the hype and not producing a quality browser by fixing the numerous issues that have been around for ages.

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  • Reply 15 of 25
    mac_dogmac_dog Posts: 1,101member

    Try upgrading your OS/iOS. 
    williamlondonbonobob
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  • Reply 16 of 25
    DAalsethdaalseth Posts: 3,292member
    mac_dog said:

    Try upgrading your OS/iOS. 
    I’m assuming that was in response to me. I’m running M2Pro Mac Mini, M1 iPad Pro, and iPhone 16Pro all kept fully patched and up to date. 
    williamlondonAlex1N
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  • Reply 17 of 25
    Apple is working blablabla... Apple is working on everything, but nothing proven up to now.

    When will Apple finally deliver something? 


    Maybe I have imagined it but I feel like Apple delivers multiple hardware and software products every year. 
    williamlondondamn_its_hotAlex1Ndanox
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  • Reply 18 of 25
    DAalseth said:
    https://gizmodo.com/apples-stock-price-falls-after-exec-says-it-is-considering-injecting-safari-with-ai-2000599351

    The markets seem unimpressed. 
    Not that it’s any skin off my nose. This was the last straw for me. After dealing with Safari crashes and freezes, and having to restart my system every few days because it just decided to not open any pages (on my phone, iPad, and Mac as well as others I support) and now them looking at putting AI **** in it, I’m done. Safari is a POS and I just moved to a DuckDuckGo. Apple seems to be mostly interested in the hype and not producing a quality browser by fixing the numerous issues that have been around for ages.
    It's not really a market changing feature, weird that anyone would expect a change in valuation because of it. 

    I have no issues Safari or any of my devices and don't restart any of them beyond running system updates. There is a common factor across all of you devices, have you considered that it might be the problem?
    williamlondonAlex1N
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  • Reply 19 of 25
    debonbondebonbon Posts: 18member
    Can they not?
    Alex1N
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  • Reply 20 of 25
    nubusnubus Posts: 814member
    It's not really a market changing feature, weird that anyone would expect a change in valuation because of it. 
    The deal with Google seems to generate more profits than Mac and Watch combined.
    If Apple decided to make a search engine the potential for profits from advertising could be huge.

    Either way this should have an impact on the valuation of both Apple and Google/Alphabet.
    damn_its_hotwilliamlondon
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